Karim BELABAS on Fri, 4 Apr 2003 01:27:29 +0200 (MEST) |
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Re: polredabs() again |
On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, Igor Schein wrote: > On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 12:18:34AM +0200, Karim BELABAS wrote: > [deleted] > > On the other hand, the current specification of polredabs is quite useless. > > There's no application whatsoever for a "polynomial of absolute smallest > > T2-norm". It's not even guaranteed to have minimal discriminant, or to > > yield smallest coefficients. The only one I can see is to give a > > pseudo-canonical representative for the field (this helps table builders, > > less isomorphism tests...) > > An appropriate observation. Here's an example: > > ? p1=x^40-444796*x^30+91848351606*x^20-11536862712826396*x^10+672749994932560009201; > time = 0 ms. > ? p2=polredabs(p1) > time = 10,160 ms. > %5 = x^40 - 45*x^38 + 1325*x^36 - 32390*x^34 + 714250*x^32 - > 12409705*x^30 + 186413550*x^28 - 2499178250*x^26 + 29415089025*x^24 - > 274143015750*x^22 + 2260522643650*x^20 - 16155295928625*x^18 + > 89060060373750*x^16 - 251196632524250*x^14 + 670266070790625*x^12 - > 1618446757085125*x^10 + 2840715854153125*x^8 - 389148315762500*x^6 + > 53298286370000*x^4 - 7270708200000*x^2 + 922368160000 > > Anybody in his right mind, I believe, would prefer p1 over p2 as a > representative for this field. I might prefer p2: (00:25) gp > poldisc(p2)/poldisc(p1)*1. time = 70 ms. %1 = 2.227868806881974253905227025 E-46 Karim. -- Karim Belabas Tel: (+33) (0)1 69 15 57 48 Dép. de Mathématiques, Bât. 425 Fax: (+33) (0)1 69 15 60 19 Université Paris-Sud http://www.math.u-psud.fr/~belabas/ F-91405 Orsay (France) http://www.parigp-home.de/ [PARI/GP]