Karim BELABAS on Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:51:55 +0100

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Re: Grumble!

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Justin Walker wrote:
> I keep getting these 'qsecretary' intercepts.  Is this new behavior?

No. It's been like this for at least half a year. (Possibly longer, don't

> This is a bit much.  If one signs up for a mailing list, I would think that
> would be prima facie evidence that one is not bulk mail (one may be 'bulk',
> but that's a separate issue :-}).  Has anyone discussed this with Dan?


The fact is quite a few spam / virii have been sent to the list before this
policy change.

> Is this in direct response to Spam?

Yes. It is not that painful, you just have to reply to the mail. I'm probably
the #1 poster on these lists (or close second:-) and I don't mind.

Bill's procmail recipe is not really a good idea: a spammer can forge an
email that appears to come from you and send it to the list, so that
qsecretary sends you a confirmation request, automatically provided by
procmail. Thereby delivering the spam.

The following package deals with this problem securely:



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